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Expressions of Liberty

A commentary on the governmental respect for natural human rights as expressed by the founders of the United States and how it effects us today. I also show how the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution and other related documents are not dead documents in America today, but merely ignored and misused.

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Location: Champaign, Illinois, United States

I am a classical liberal which is considered a type of conservative in these modern days. I am pro-right to life, pro-right to liberty, pro-parental rights, pro-right to property and a number of other natural human rights.

Saturday, November 04, 2006

Should The Question How Best To Kill A Child Be A Decided By The Supreme Court?

The courts will be hearing the case challenging the ban on partial birth abortion, I ask how much riskier for a woman’s health is it to completely give birth to their child instead of partially giving birth to the boy/girl and then have the doctor kill him/her. In short it sounds like the health of the mother is never in question which is the only reason for a third trimester abortion of the child I remember according Roe v. Wade.

(c) For the stage subsequent to viability, the State in promoting its interest in the potentiality of human life may, if it chooses, regulate, and even proscribe, abortion except where it is necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother.


This phase potentiality of human life is incorrect as human life is known to begin at conception according to science. It is only when you get to theological/philosophical arguments that there is any debate. Viability is the point of which a child can survive outside his/her mother’s womb and occurs at the point where the child has lived 22 weeks or shortly thereafter. The only point in the human life cycle when there is a potential for human life is the gametes as they are not a homo sapient life form though they are living.

In law according to Roe v. Wade this is irrelevant. All that cares is who the law states is a person, and not who is actually a person. .In their argument the deciding judges used prior court decisions to determine what the law was. Court decision are not the law they are merely the interpretation of the law and may be changed at a later date without changing the law. Only the legislators have the power to make or remove laws and therefore a statue law holds precedent over a court decision every time.

The potential hang up in the court for the partial birth abortion ban will be the words “appropriate medical judgment”. The courts decided in Doe v. Bolton than one medical opinion is all that was necessary since they stated the second was unnecessary. If the federal attorneys can present evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt there is no health reason for this procedure to be performed then the Justices should decide the law is constitutional. The federal attorneys have an advantage over state attorneys in that Congress can regulate the federal courts and the Seventeenth Amendment removed the states ability to influence the federal government. This makes the judiciary think twice before overturning the a law passed by Congress.

Source 1 is article about Supreme Court hearing case on Partial Birth Abortion.

Source 2 is the majority decision in Roe v Wade

7 Comments:

Blogger highboy said...

Roe vs. Wade is just bad law. The idea shouldn't be "when" or "how" to kill a child but NEVER.

"This phase potentiality of human life is incorrect as human life is known to begin at conception according to science."

You know I totally buy this but could post a source? As anti-abortion as my site is, I need more background information concerning the exact science.

2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"human life is known to begin at conception according to science"

In direct opposition to your claim, this is solely a religious position, not a scientific consensus. If you believe otherwise, post a source.

"Roe vs. Wade is just bad law."

Why, because you don't like it?

"You know I totally buy this but could post a source?"

In other words, you want to believe life begins at conception, but you can't support this belief with evidence. Inother words, you have no basis for this belief besides your own religiosity and emotion. Gee, who knew?

11:16 PM  
Blogger Kerwin said...

http://www.biology.iupui.edu/biocourses/n100/2k4ch39repronotes.html

This is a link to an article of human development for a biology course at Indiana University/Purdue University at Indianapolis.

Direct your attention to the following which specifically states:

“After fertilization, the egg and sperm and nuclei fuse, and a new diploid human zygote results (2n) - the first cell of the new animal... “

This is such a well known fact that it is taught in grade school

Roe v. Wade is actually pretty good until the Justices made an circular logical argument. The argument that unborn children are not whole persons because they do not have equal protection under the law and so do not deserve any protection is contra productive to the purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment which was meant to ensure equal protection under the law for all human beings. They also rejected scientific evidence of when life starts and about the human life cycle which is kind of iffy though it can be allowed in the legal profession as such things are really up to the legislation and not the judicial branch.

Other sources:

http://www.all.org/abac/jch007.htm

http://www.bioethics.gov/reports/stemcell/appendix_a.html

http://www.ccbrinfo.ca/development.html

As for accusing this of being a religious issue it show your ignorance of pro life history. The AMA was the pro life mover and shaker in the 19th Century and the Catholic Church did not believe children were alive in their mother’s womb until about mid term. It is an ethical and scientific issue not a religious one though many religions have adopted it.

Here are some pro life Atheist who are not what you call religious.

http://www.godlessprolifers.org/members.html

4:25 PM  
Blogger highboy said...

He's a troll Kerwyn. You're wasting your time trying to sway him/her/it with facts.

8:04 PM  
Blogger Kerwin said...

The questions sounded legitimate so I answered them which ignorance is no longer an excuse that they can use. The can use being a religious fanatic.

8:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks, Thanks, Thanks

2:34 PM  
Blogger Kerwin said...

Anne,

You are welcome.

3:52 PM  

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